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« on: September 12, 2013, 10:05:16 PM »

It's time to buy shampoo again and as I look online I see so many to choose from so I thought I'd ask you, what shampoo products do you use?
I just finished a bottle of Wahl oatmeal shampoo I bought months and months ago, It was highly concentrated so it lasted forever. I bought it as is said it was good for dogs with sensitive skin and since Luigi can be prone to skin irritations I figured it would be a good choice. It was good, didn't cause itching if I diluted it enough and made sure I rinsed, rinsed and rinsed, but since most oatmeal shampoos are yellow based as was this one, I found that their hair was not always the brightest and with time developed a yellowish tint. I find green shampoos I have used in the past do the same.
Also, do you use conditioner? I have on occasion, but generally I don't, I just rub some cowboy magic through the damp hair and brush and blow dry.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013, 11:13:51 PM »

I've never heard of the Cowboy Majic before so looked it up.  That would be great during winter when it's dry and there is so much static electricity - will have to get some for Bullett.  I'm allergic to perservatives in products so have to buy those that don't break me out.  What I use on Bullett is Perfect Coat White Pearl Easy Rinse Formula and have been completely happy with it.  Its has a coconut scent that lasts a long time.  I've been able to bath him less since using this brand since it takes longer for the doggie smell to come back.  The bottle says it's shampoo & conditioner. 
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 11:44:23 PM »

I use johnsons baby shampoo for Molly.  That combined with a grain free food stopped her constant itching. I tried the conditioner too but I found it dried her skin a bit. Going to order the cowboy magic when I'm home as iv heard great things about it here and Molly tends to get matts on her belly very easily as she's hates the feel of the brush in her belly/chest
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 07:18:38 AM »

I use Plush Puppy shampoo and conditioner.It doesn't contain any bleaching agents,but makes them sparkle like they have glitter on them.

I use Cowboy Magic too,its amazing.Alison
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 10:24:35 AM »

I buy my shampoo and conditioner from Pet Edge.  I use #1 All Systems Pure White Lightening Shampoo, and #1 All Systems Super Rich Protein Lotion Conditioner.  I do not use the shampoo / conditioner combination (they make one of those also). They are concentrated, I buy the gallon size which lasts me almost a year.  I have the bottles to do the dilution properly.  The conditioner has a detangler in it, which I need for these rescues.

Rinsing is critical.  Rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse, and then, rinse some more.  

The shampoo does have a bleaching agent; I only bathe about every 2 to 3 weeks, so far no issues.  In fact, I can usually tell when they NEED a bath as they start scratching.  Since we outside a LOT, at the farm, on the edge of the road (no sidewalks) they pick up plenty of dirt.  I think this is what gets them itching.

I have Cowboy Magic, but I don't find it helpful.  Could be due to mine being rescues, they do not tolerate grooming well at all (Oh how I envy Lizzie with her fluffs bathed regularly from puppy hood!).  Trying to work out a mat is about impossible, it has to be cut out and wait for the hair to grow back in.  The faster my dogs are DONE the happier we ALL are.  

Just be sure to RINSE all the shampoo, and then rinse all the conditioner.



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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 10:26:02 AM »

I use Kelco Plum White Shampoo which I buy in the UK from Friends of Bichons in Rescue.  One bottle lasts me years - I don't tend to wash them very much  original
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 02:34:29 PM »

I try different shampoos- I tried Angel Eyes shampoo- it is soap free and it seems to work well.  I also like the Spa line of Shampoo and conditioners.  I have a question about the Cowboy Magic- do you put it on after the bath when they are wet?  Does it help with any mats?  Because I keep my dogs a little longer, I sometimes find a mat or two.  They are very tolerant fo my brushing it out- but with 3 to groom now, I am thinking that I may need to learn to use the clippers for their back and sides and I would think that they need to be mat free.  I will still keep the face and legs full.  It is just a lot of scissoring. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 04:44:58 PM »

I have to laugh, not one duplicate, you all use different shampoos, this is the same as looking online so many to choose from.  Laughing
I was looking at the one Sandie mentioned as well as the Spa line that Andrea mentioned. The Spa line has many shampoos all for different things. I'm glad Sandie mentioned the #1 All Systems Pure White Lightening Shampoo, because I was thinking to buy it but not for regular use because of the bleach. Has anyone tried Espree products? http://www.renspets.com/hypo-allergenic-shampoo-20oz.html This is their  hypo allergenic product?
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 06:22:28 PM »

I have used so many over the years including the white lightening from Pet Edge.

For the last year I have been using the Earthbath all natural shampoos and getting them from Amazon.

Currently, I alternate between the Hypoallergenic and the Oatmeal and Aloe which really smells nice.  I am finally happy with a shampoo and the way it leaves Missy's skin and coat.

I chose it because of the great reviews which you can check  HERE

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2013, 12:25:34 PM »

I am following this thread. I do not bathe Kallie myself as I do not really have a space to do it efficiently. She has been itching quite a bit and I do ask the groomer to use a hypo allergenic shampoo but she still scratches. The vet prescribed Benadryl but we haven't tried that yet (need a pill cutter first). I am going to ask the groomer if I can buy a shampoo and have her use it.

PS: Yes it is pricey to have the groomer bathe her every couple of weeks but we do what we have to do.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2013, 01:11:04 PM »

Susan, I have tried the Earthbath shampoo. I am not sure if I liked it or not as I have tried many but for one reason or the next try something different the next time. I should probably revisit that brand.

Andrea, the Cowboy Magic can be used on dry or wet hair. If I notice any matting during regular brushing I would put a dab just on that spot and work it out with a comb. My two get very few mats as I am an avid brusher, however, having said that Lia tends to get wee tangles on her fine sparse under belly and she is very sensitive so if you catch one with a comb she FREAKS!!!!! It seems since I apply Cowboy Magic after their bath they don't seem to get many tangles with regular brushing and outdoor activity. I bath them, towel dry, then take nickle sized dabs and work it through the different parts of the body, starting in places I know get tangled, like behind the ears from scratching, under pits from harnesses, belly, butts and tails. I then just blow dry and brush.

Judy, have you tried changing Kallies food? Sandie mentioned to me some time ago that high protein foods can cause protein itch.

Speaking of food! When grooming the fluffs I give them little breaks and treats. I have these small soft treats, don't know the name off hand, but they are a quality treat as that is all I buy. The night before I also had a leftover hot dog so I cut up some small pieces and gave some to the fluffs. Wouldn't you know it, the day after the bath Luigi had mucus in his stool again with a little blood!  frustrated That boy is so sensitive. I don't know if it was from too many treats or the hotdog, or the combination, as I have never given him hotdog before. Sad  Anyway I bought some pumpkin and mixed it in a LID food, so now both my clean white fluffs have ORANGE FACES!!!!!   Mad
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 01:42:10 PM »

Yes, Lin I do remember something about a high protein food, but I don't know what is considered high. Kallie is on Performatrin Ultra Grain Free. The bag says crude protein in 37%. Is that high, medium or low?

I tried giving Kallie the Benadryl hidden in a piece of cheese...........well I guess I didn't hide it too well, it ended up on the floor and I  got a look that said "What are you trying to put over on me!" I guess I'll have to think of something else!

Lin, what is LID food?
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 02:40:01 PM »

Judy, LID stands for a Limited Ingredient Diet. It has one meat protein and basic carb ingredients and can be grain free. Wellness makes one, Natural Balance, I think even Blue Buffalo. We use the d**k Van Patten's Natural Balance. I do have to use a dental Rx food for Lia and her teeth and Luigi eats it too as that is the only way I can get Lia to eat it, but every 2nd or 3rd bag I switch back to the LID as Luigi clearly does better on it. We use the Sweet Potato and Fish, they both love it. It doesn't get the best ratings on the Dog Food Analysis charts  (3 out of 5)  because of the one low protein, but it works for us.
Your food at 37% crude protein is high and really causes both my fluffs to scratch. The LID I am feeding now is only 21% protein and I think their dental food is about 24%.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2013, 02:50:57 PM »

Thanks Lin, looks like I'll have to do some research.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2013, 02:55:51 PM »

. Has anyone tried Espree products? http://www.renspets.com/hypo-allergenic-shampoo-20oz.html This is their  hypo allergenic product?
i used the Espree brand oatmeal and baking soda for Willy for 8 to 10 months when he first arrived.  He had extensive skin yeast infection and needed bathing twice a week at least to help him heal, along with the medication.  Espree is a good brand.

Luigi's issue could have been either the hotdog, the treats, the mix of the 2 or too many of all.  With the sensitive ones, it is so critical to monitor every thing they ingest!  

I did try Earthbath, Mary Ellen gave me some samples.  I didn't have any problem with it.  Just stick to my usual if it works and don't like to risk change.

Judy, for my fluffs 37% protein would be much too high. I use Earthborn Holistics, they have 3 grain free formulas, and the Meadow Feast is 26% protein.  http://www.earthbornholisticpetfood.com/us/dog_formulas/meadow_feast/guaranteed_analysis.php

Tony is new to me (he arrived July 31st), I've been waiting for his coat and skin to recover.  Seems he has food allergies, he is constantly nibbling his front feet.  thumbdown  I am hoping this is the treat I use -- my RB Sugar was allergic to fish, and the treat I use for their morning and bedtime is a salmon base.  So I've bought a sweet potato formula (same brand) and will see if this helps him.  I HATE sorting out food allergies!  So much trial and error, and in a multipet home it gets a bit crazy!


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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2013, 03:27:09 PM »

I feel very fortunate that my fluffs do not have food allergies or skin problems.   Guess I should not say this too loudly .  Thanks Lin for explaining how you use the CBM.  May try this the next time I bath -especially Noah- he has soooooo much hair.                                                                                                                                                                     
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2013, 06:31:51 PM »



I tried giving Kallie the Benadryl hidden in a piece of cheese...........well I guess I didn't hide it too well, it ended up on the floor and I  got a look that said "What are you trying to put over on me!" I guess I'll have to think of something else!



Missy's loves the Children's Liquid Benadryl Cherry flavor.  She will lick it right off the spoon.  You might want to try that rather than the pills. 


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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2013, 06:57:02 PM »

I use cream cheese to put the pills in- I make 2 little balls, 1 with the pill, the other just plain. I give the pill first, then the 2nd roll quickly and they never know they took a pill. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2013, 09:06:35 PM »

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Unless your name is LUIGI, he has to SNIFF everything before he eats it  Sneaky and he can smell pills.  frustrated
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2013, 09:45:20 PM »

OMG so much information! I am looking in to it all. Thanks so much to all!

 Linda I am so sorry to hijack your thread..............
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2013, 12:21:23 AM »

How long would a 4oz bottle of cowboy magic detangle and shine usually last for those that have it? And for those in Europe where do you buy if online? Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2013, 06:26:26 AM »

My first one lasted about 4 years so I know it seems expensive ,but it isn't in the long run.I've bought it from a horse supplier ,its meant for their manes and tails,and also Amazon.I'm in the UK.

Its is amazing stuff.I never have had to cut out a knot using it and Abby has quite long hair sometimes and loves running through bushes.Its her tail and sometimes her feet I use it on mainly.Alison
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2013, 08:56:29 AM »

It is hard to say how long the Cowboy Magic lasts, but it does go far. I have only bought 2 tubes so far and I have been using it for at least 3 years on 2 fluffs. I buy mine at a local Equine Tack Shop, as Alison mentioned it was designed to be used on horses.  thumbsup
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2013, 08:43:12 PM »

I currently use Viva La Dog Spa White Coat concentrated shampoo. I dilute it in an old shampoo bottle and use that to squirt it over Daisy's wet coat in the bath. I've only used it a few times, but I like the results. Her apricot spots look lighter and her coat feels better all the time. It's not very foamy, but it seems to rinse quickly and cleanly. I also have Perfect Coat Hypoallergenic Conditioner that is easy-rinse to take care of any leftover residue. Daisy's coat is sometimes very dry, especially on her darker hairs, so I have sprays and creams to help condition. My favorite right now is Pet Head's High Maintenance Leave-In Conditioner in the pink tube. It smells like strawberry yogurt and is lovely to rub on. I also use it on my hair. I have their blueberry muffin Spray Shampoo too and so far, so good. Daisy doesn't like getting brushed or bathed, so we are still trying things. I really want to get a no-rinse foaming shampoo for her face and a few products by Warren London - like the Sani-Scrub and Hydrating Butter [plus Critter Color and Pawlish would be so much fun!]. 
She has not been to a groomer since we adopted her this summer, but I'm super-excited to see what she will look like all professionally trimmed and fluffed.  fluff
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2014, 02:19:42 PM »

This is what I've been using on Loki, its Tropiclean Oxymed Hypo Allergenic Oatmeal Shampoo and the spray is an immediate relief anti itch, which you spray on and rub in, they both smell jice....Loki was really itchy when we got her, so much so that she used to cry when she itched and she had lots of little tiny scabs where she'd been itching....she is so much better now and I've noticed even better since a change of food, she was on a special bland diet from the vet mixed with chicken and rice, she is now on Lilys Kitchen Grain Free puppy food. Even the treats I give her now are Lilys Kitchen.....if you read Eddels grading system of the food, it is extremely helpful.....I've included a picture of the shampoo and anti itch,  it really is vrry good for Loki, we don't have to use the spray anymore either, but remember, as I have found, they are just like us, what works for one won't necessarily work for another, I have spent a fortune trying to get it right for Loki and no doubt it will change
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2014, 02:35:24 PM »

Sorry posted before Id finished or spell checked!!!! Flaming tablet lol

No doubt it will change again as she gets older ...... sorry it won't let me post the picture, I think my tablet is playing up today :-/ x
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2014, 02:54:08 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2014, 12:35:59 PM »

 Thank You  Audra

I just placed an order on Amazon for the Tropiclean hypo allergenic shampoo and the medicated rinse.  It's a really good price today and on Prime so free shipping.  It's about half price of the Earthbath shampoo that I currently buy and seems to have the same ingredients so it's worth a try.

I have a cabinet full of various shampoos and rinses for Missy.   Rolled Eyes  I don't like the sprays for her since I have had no luck in getting them through her fur to really get to the skin and unless it is a hotspot which I can treat, it's hard for me to pinpoint a spray for general itchiness.  Missy does have grass and weed allergies which are just impossible to avoid. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2014, 02:14:13 PM »

Awe, you are very welcome Susan, I hope it works as well for Missy as it has for Loki. I'm glad to have been able to help.....I didn't know there was a rinse though, I will have to get that as well.....I wanted something good to wash Loki, as I got told off by the vet for washing her too much!!! But she's always dirty!!! Lol....I have cut back on bathing her as of course the last thing I wanted was to be the one responsible for making her skin sore....however I will not be listening to my vet for her advice of bathing....she said once every 2 months was sufficient!!!!!  OMG She would be filthy!!!  It was reading this forum that I got my information, and started looking for an oatmeal shampoo, and now I do what most of you do, which is bath her every 2 weeks....although I have been dunking her paws, and I have wipes for her bottom and back legs  nodding x
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2014, 02:16:55 PM »

Missy gets a weekly bath and has for over nine years.  Since she is allergic to pollen, it helps to get it off of her though she always wears clothing outside to minimize her exposure.  We also use wipes whenever she comes back indoors.

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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2014, 06:32:26 PM »

As long as I am not harming Loki or her coat I don't see why she can't have a bath more often....someone did say I would be washing the oils out of her coat, but when she goes to the groomers (when I pluck up the courage) she will be going once a month anyway...still bettter than once every 2 months or longer OMG x
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2014, 05:37:10 PM »

Abby varies from baths every couple of weeks to maybe 3 or 4 depending on what we're doing.I wash her feet and belly in the shower more often though.Usually after most walks,depending on the weather


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