KIBBLE GRADING SYSTEM:: requests & questions

[EDDEL]

This thread is for members to request for brands/varieties of kibble to be graded, and any other questions they might have for kibble they're considering (to feed their fluffs ).

"GRADES" of brands/varieties that has already been calculated, can be viewed here in this thread.

[natalie]

I thought we had already graded Royal Canin Mini Adult, but I can't find it

Maybe I just did it myself at home or something

In any case, perhaps that would be a good candidate to get us going

[lainey]

Hi there

I was at the vet ( the bald one, not the  one   ) with Mitsy for a check up on Saturday and she is 8lbs in weight & 25 weeks old.

The vet asked me to start moving her from puppy  to junior dog food. 

I feed her "James Wellbeloved" - http://www.wellbeloved.com 

It is made by one of the few companies in the UK that don't test on animals.

Royal Canin, Purina & Iams all do and it's a personal decision that I just won't give them my money no matter how good they claim to be 

She likes all the flavours but the White Fish is her favourite and it is the White Fish Junior Performance I have bought to start moving her to gradually.


Here we go...................

Ocean White Fish & Rice Kibble
Complete dog food

A hypo-allergenic dog food, beneficial for dogs with particular nutritional intolerances, and also a healthy tasty natural diet.

INGREDIENTS AND ANALYSIS

Junior/Performance

Ingredients: Rice, Ocean White Fish Meal, Barley, Potato Protein, Whole Linseed, Olive Oil, Vegetable Gravy, Peas, Fish Oil, Alfalfa, Natural Seaweed, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, D,L-methionine, Lysine Hydrochloride, Threonine, Zinc Methionate.

Contains: Min. 23% Fish, Min 28% Rice, Min 10% Barley

Typical Analysis: Protein 24%, Oil 10%, Fibre 3.5%, Ash 8%.
 

  Del if you can find some time to rate this for me 

Lainey & Mitsy  [/font]

[EDDEL]

ladies, I will grade ROYAL CANIN and JAMES WELLBELOVED for you both (later ).

[chui888]

Del... would you help me to grade about Castor & Pollux Organix Puppy Formula, here are the ingredients -

Organic Chicken, Chicken Meal, Organic Peas, Organic Extruded Soybean Seeds, Organic Barley, Organic Brown Rice, Chicken Fat preserved with mixed Tochopherols (form of Vitamin E), Dicalcium Phosphate, Natural Chicken Liver Flavor, Salmon Meal, Organic Flaxseed Meal, Dried Whole Egg, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Minerals [Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Proteinate, Calcium Iodate], Choline Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamin Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement], Yeast Culture (Saccharomyces Cerevisiae), Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Niger Fermentatiion Extract, Dried Trichoderma Longibrachiatum Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract and Fermentation Solubles, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate.

Since it said organic, but I dont' see any meat, besides the chicken and the chicken meal....... I really need help!!!

[EDDEL]

I didn't see your post earlier Charing.  I will grade Castor & Pollux Organix Puppy Formula (although I think it might have been graded before... I'll check ) for you.

[lainey]

Del daaaahling, I have moved wee Mitsy onto Burns food.

Mars have bought James WellBeloved and they test on animals  and apparantly no longer use quality ingredients.

  for your help 

Lainey & Mitsy 


Here are the ingredients.......

Food ingredients
Whole grain brown rice, ocean fish meal, peas, oats, chicken fat, sunflower oil, seaweed

Vitamins and Minerals
Calcium Carbonate, Niacin supplement, dl – alpha tocopharyl acetate(Vitamin E supplement) D – Calcium pantotthenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavine Supplement, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, D – Biotin, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Chloride

Analysis:
Crude Protein - Min. 18.5%; Crude fat - Min. 7.5%;
Crude Fiber - 2.2%; Moisture - Max. 9.0%; Ash - 7%

Analysis per 100g:Vitamin A 8800 iu/kg; Vitamin D3 800 iu/kg; Vitamin E 88 mg/kg;
Vitamin B12 50 mg/kg; Copper 10 mg/kg; Sodium 0.4%;
Linoleic Acid 1.2%; Calcium 1.2%; Phosphorous 0.8%;
Magnesium 0.1%; Potassium 0.6%; Chloride 0.5%; Sulphur 0.15%

[Carol]

Ozzie  has been thriving on Performatrin Ultra Adult, Hormon-free Lamb and Brown Rice Formula Dog Food for the past year. www.performatrinultra.com
Using the grading system here, I have scored it
101 points, which would be A 
Is there somewhere that I can post the ingredients and scoring details?

[EDDEL]

Lainey, I've graded BURNS for you ( for the reminder ).

I found BURNS website, and saw that the ingredients list (on their website) has no chicken fat, whereas yours (ie. your post) has. Not that it matters .  If chicken fat (is listed as an ingredient on your kibble packet and) is taken into account, the score will be 100 .

And while theres's no dairy products, wheat, soya or beef in all their formulas (ingredients which may cause some food allergies according to their website), note that brown rice makes up three-fifths of the bag, while fish is only one-fifth (the only meat protein in there) .  Again, not that it's bad or matters a whole lot .... just know that Mitsy is consuming more rice than fish, with each mouthful/serving.  It's ideal when the 1st (& 2nd) ingredient(s) are meats... but then again, a lot of manufacturers have 2 or more grains in the formula (eg: brown rice, rice, oats) which in turn may add up to more than the 1st listed meat ingredient.  You get what I'm saying .

[EDDEL]

Carol, the place/thread where scores are kept is here.

I looked at the Lamb & Brown Rice formula and must say the ingredients list really looks impressive .  I graded it and got a score of 109 (different from yours... not that it matters ).

Note: Everything after Brewers Dried Yeast are vitamins & minerals, and have no 'impact' (so to speak) on the score.  All manufacturers add these (usually same) vitamins & minerals because most (if not all) vitamins & minerals are "lost" during the extrusion process (ie. during the 'manufacture' of the kibble).

[Carol]

Thank you, Del!  You rock.
As I look over the list you used (from their website, I presume?), and compare it to the bag, they are identical. I think where I missed points is that on your list the probiotic ingredients are indicated, and on the bag there is no indication. (and I don't know what is probiotic and what isn't  ) That's 3 points anyway.  In any case, Ozzie loves his kibble 

[lainey]

.................note that brown rice makes up three-fifths of the bag, while fish is only one-fifth (the only meat protein in there) .  Again, not that it's bad or matters a whole lot .... just know that Mitsy is consuming more rice than fish, with each mouthful/serving.  It's ideal when the 1st (& 2nd) ingredient(s) are meats... but then again, a lot of manufacturers have 2 or more grains in the formula (eg: brown rice, rice, oats) which in turn may add up to more than the 1st listed meat ingredient.  You get what I'm saying .

Del, I actually asked my vet about this at the weekend and as I give Mitsy a steak or salmon twice a week he thought it was a good thing and balances out well. She had Venison for the first time on Sunday 

  for helping us out. I think Burns is the best UK option but if anyone knows differently, please let me know.

Lainey & Mitsy 

[kfz323]

I have been giving Cassie the wet Merrick food at night, and now want to try the dry food I have listed the ingredients if anyone can help me to rate it
Did I say how much I love this site!!!
Merrick Cowboy Cookout

Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein (Not Less Than) 22.0% Crude Fat (Not Less Than) 14.0% Crude Fiber (Not More Than) 3.5% Moisture (Not More Than) 10.0%

Calorie Content: 3594 kcal/kg - One pound provides 1633 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value. (Caloric content calculated using Modified Atwater Method)

Ingredients: Beef, Oatmeal, Barley, Beef Meal, Whole Brown Rice, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols – a source of Natural Vitamin E and Ascorbic Acid, a source of Vitamin C), Flaxseed, Potatoes, Carrots, Peas, Dried Chicken Liver, Whole Apples, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Lysine, Guar Gum, Salt, Choline Chloride, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Whole Blueberries, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Whole Clove Garlic, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Dried Beef Broth, Chicory Root, Marigold Extract, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterocococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Natural Celery Flavor, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Natural Caramel Color, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin D3, Niacin, Lecithin, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cobalt Amino Acid Complex, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.

Cowboy Cookout is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food nutrient profiles for all life stag
 

[LunasMum (Traci)]

I checked and it graded 105 which is good an A. Their web site says no artificial colors or flavors. It doesn't mention it being organic, or baked or having probiotics and it still rated well.

[kfz323]

Thank you soooooo much!!!!   Besides the kibble can you rate the wet food????